Why a McCain Presidency will not be a third Bush Term

While John McCain rightfully in general supports a fiscally and constitutionally conservative platform, we will in this first thread nevertheless list evidence to demonstrate that John will in fact take the country in a different direction in many key areas of importance - get the widely desired change actually implemented and executed, as opposed to Obama who talks about (nothing but) change, yet lacks any foundation in terms of resume &track record, experience , bi-partisanship or sound internal and foreign policy,and raised serious doubts about his judgement and associations...

The DNC's PR strategy to lump Mccain grosso modo together with the Bush Administration must be counteracted and dismissed, as they in a typical populist &poll driven, opportunistic manner - grossly underestimating the intelligence level of the American People - try to take advantage of GWB's low popularity and the current slump of the economy.

The latter, as most economists would concur, cannot be simply attributed to the fundamentally sound conservative economic platform, but should be understood as logic longterm consequences of structural flaws of the US economy (housing, lending, private debth etc.) with many key symptoms caused by initiatives and legislature established during Democrat Administrations.

John McCain will bring change, where it matters,
whereas Obama's propositions pertaining to Foreign Policy, National Security and Economy would have devastating short & longterm consequences on a massive, global scale.

(With regard to leadership and Change, please scroll down all the way to one of the harshest depictions of the current state of affairs in the USA I have read recently.
Whow - Lee Iacocca is definitely not a fan of the current admin - albeit, his 9C dogma to define a true leader, taught in many business schools, is spot on.
We invite you to invest a few minutes to read this angry, yet brilliant piece (Substantial Change in factual detail as opposed to the fluffy Obama slogan)) then ask yourself, which one of the candidates has these exact qualities.)
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Asked how his economic policies would differ from President Bush's, McCain said: "Spending, spending, spending. This administration let spending get completely out of control. We mortgaged our children's futures and it led to corruption, and we presided over the largest increase in the size of government since the Great Society."
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McCain: Big Oil should return some profit
MSNBC
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McCain deserting Bush on unemployment
MSNBC
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Intl. Herald Tribune
On foreign policy, McCain draws contrast to Bush
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Speech on Foreign Policy, which to a great extent is a thoughtful rejection of the Bush Foreign Policy.
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CNN
McCain says U.S. government failed New Orleans
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ABC News
GOP battle over Torture, Detainees
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NY Times
To Detroit's Dismay, McCain Proposes Rise in Fuel Standards
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PolitiFact.com
Both McCain and Bush favor tax breaks for oil companies......
Blatantly false
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Thursday, September 14, 2006 Powell joins McCain, Warner and Lindsey opposing Bush's torture plan
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NY Times
Election Over, McCain Criticizes Bush on Climate Change
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I AM NOT A RACIST AND TIRED OF BEING CALLED ONE

Below, find an article by Leeland Conway out of Kentucky. The piece perfectly reflects my personal feelings as well as many white voters, who are dismissed by the Obama Campaign as uneducated and bitter.

When I learned that the United Nations race police were coming to America to “observe” our political process I had finally had enough.

I am not a racist.

I don’t know about you but I am tired of being called one. For the last several weeks I’ve listened and read as the mainstream media has blasted on about how Kentucky, West Virginia, and other heartland states aren’t going well for Democratic Presidential candidate Barack Obama because of his race.

As a Kentuckian and a member of the latest two states to be accused of blanket hatred as an excuse for Obama’s losses here, I am becoming more than a bit agitated.Let’s be honest. If Obama were a white man and had won the state of Kentucky against Hillary Clinton, then all of us labeled as gun toting, God fearing, rednecks would have been accused of gender hatred for voting against a woman. According to the mainstream media, including the larger print outlets of this state, we’re all bigots of some sort.

I am offended and I find this broad generalization of my voting habits to be both wrong and more than a bit ironic. The illustrious press and their bobble-headed intellectuals are having a heyday making the case that Barack Obama’s poor performance here is a result of deep seeded racism by uneducated voters.

For instance, the first exit poll question in West Virginia after their primary was, “How many years of high school did you complete?” Not “who did you vote for” or “why did you choose the candidate you chose,” but basically, “can you read and write?” How is this not bigoted on the part of the media funded research group to frame their poll with such questions?

They appear never to have stopped to think that Obama’s double digit losses in areas like this could have more to do with an offense he committed against us rather than one we theoretically committed against him. Does anyone remember his small town America clinging to guns, God and bitterness comment?

I’m not bitter – I’m just mad.

The mainstream media has assumed that Kentuckians, who chose another candidate over Obama by a wide margin, could only be doing so because of his race. It’s as if they are saying, “Don’t those poor uneducated country bumpkins see the throngs of people fainting at Obama’s feet? There is no excuse for this because we know they all have satellite!”

I propose some different reasons that many of us aren’t voting for Barack Obama. It may have something to do with his upbringing by a mother who was a member of the Communist anti-western movement. It may have something to do with one of his early mentors, Frank Marshall Davis, who was a card carrying member of the Moscow linked Communist Party of America. Or perhaps his later mentor, the infamous 60’s radical Marxist agitator, Saul Alinsky. Or it could be Obama’s “friendly” association with the former Weather Underground terrorist, William C. Ayers. Maybe it’s that flag lapel pin thing. In and of itself, it’s not that big of a deal whether a candidate wears a flag lapel pin or not, but coupled with his other statements and with Obama’s wife’s recent declaration that for the first time in her “adult life” she was “proud of America,” it leaves a lot of us proud Americans with some big questions about this guy.

Really, Mrs. Obama, the first time you can be proud of America? You mean you couldn’t be proud when in 1955 Rosa Parks showed the true meaning of the American Spirit and chose not to give up her seat on the bus? Or when in 1964 the hideous Jim Crow laws were abolished by the civil rights act? Or in the 1980’s when the iron curtain fell and democracy trumped communism? Are the Obamas so self-centered that they are blinded to all of the good things about America?

I don’t think racism is the reason the heartland is having trouble with Obama after all. It could be that we are simply more perceptive to his elitism and lack of substance than the rest of the country. We’re dubious when Barack Obama talks about his support for the second amendment when we know that he sat on a board that voted to call for a complete ban on all handguns. It makes us uncomfortable that he sat under a hateful and bigoted pastor for 20 years and claims never to have heard his controversial sermons. We’re skeptical when his wife says that we all need to “give up a piece of our pie so someone else can have more.” We’re incredulous when a slick politician comes to town to tell us that he can save us with “hope for change” but he can’t seem to tell us exactly what this change is.

Perhaps here in Kentucky we are not the bumbling racist rednecks that the mainstream media thinks we are. Maybe we’re just intuitive. Whether Democrat or Republican, most of us still have an acute sense of what the American Dream really is and it doesn’t include audacious change for the sake of ambiguous hope.

I am not a racist. It is very disingenuous for the press or anyone else to generalize Kentuckians and accuse us of blanket racism because of our votes. There are many reasons why we may not choose to support a candidate with an unclear background and a tenuous record. Perhaps Kentuckians are simply exercising their prerogative in thinking someone else would be a better choice.

Leland Conway is Executive Editor of www.conservativeedge.com and host of “The Pulse of Lexington” on 630WLAP. You can reach him for comment at Leland@wlap.com.

Talking Points from a Conservative Viewpoint

I recently visited a blogsite which considers itself as truly conservati ve and lists strong objections to John McCain. Instead of dismissing those members of the Republican Party as Right Wingers, I see them as the conscience of the party, reminding us on the "pure" core values - some form of Zen goal one should try to work towards to, but never really accomplishes fully.

I was harshly commented, when I posted a moderate piece. One of the replies reflects a sentiment within the Republican Party, noone should just dismiss, which is why I will quote the issues and then offer my slant on things.

Overall, to set the tone
- I am a pragmatist and optimist. I truly believe that 4 steps into the right direction are superior to 2 steps backwards.
- I am a business exec who tries to utilize a leadership style of listening to my specialists and let them do what they're good at and specifically educated to do.
- Changing/adapting my opinion/strategy due to (evolving or changing) frame condition, or adopting someone else's idea I consider not as flip-flopping, but as strength to change vs. stubborness.

>>>McCain was the leading opponent to Bush tax cuts and used Dem rhetoric to try and stop them. He now is for them? You believe him. That is your problem>>>>>
Arnold here tried recently to push some initiative forward like a bulldozer, then got slapped by the voters. The next day he came out and humbly apologized, admitting factual mistakes and taking full responsibility for the defeat. I appreciate such humility and honesty, inasmuch as John did something similar concerning the cuts. He had the guts to change opinion and admit so, even though he knew he would be called flip-flopper for sure.
To learn, accept, evolve and adapt it to my opinion a strength - not a weakness.

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To all Obama Supporters - Here's a Plan for you.

Robin Williams, wearing a shirt that says 'I love New York' in Arabic.

How about Robin's Foreign Policy Platform, dear Obama Supporters?

1) 'The US will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest o f those ' good 'ole' boys', we will never 'interfere' again.

2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany , South Korea , the Middle East , and the Philippines . They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of whom or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5) No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a 'D' and it's back home baby.

6) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while

7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere.' They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH..learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?'

The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, 'you want a piece of me?' '

Myths and Legends about John McCain - Let's debunk those first

Now - let's debunk some of the recent smears and put these issues to rest: Here's an interesting piece from factcheck.org.
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Cliff Schecter's New Book

The democrats have been coming out swinging against John McCain. They throw the mud and then either apologize or "retract" knowing the damage has been done.
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Nice way of reaching out.......

The Job Interview

At first here a link to an Article in the Economist (one of the most reputable weekly worldwide) appearing before the primaries. It delivers a great objective perspective out of Europe.
Read the Economist Article

In every standard Job Interview, we are asked to compare resumes in order to find the right person for the job.
Continue here for their published resumes and be the judge>>>>

Facts about Senator Obama

Legislative Accomplishments?? Zero

The incredible Image and Branding Campaign of the Obama Team is truly amazing. A huge populus is hyped about " Change, Hope" and his obvious charisma, willing to give an unknown quantity a shot at the single most important post in the world.

Many do not look at his specifics, his track record which is one of the most leftist of all senators. We think it is time that the American People start to scrutinize this man who has delivered nothing than slogans and fluff - certainly no substance.

Why is it that the normal average Joe Blow must undergoe a serious Job Interview for pretty much any type of work, whereas Obama seems to skate by without any serioous questions raised as to background, track record and experience?

In this thread I will try to commence the process of scrutinizing Senator Obama, as a president must have more than just a great image.
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Obama’s Lobbyist Connection
(Newsweek)
>>>>Last week, Obama hit John McCain for hiring "some of the biggest lobbyists in Washington" to run his campaign; Obama's aides say their candidate, as a foe of "special interests," has refused to take money from lobbyists or employ them. Neither Axelrod nor his partners at ASK ever registered as lobbyists for Commonwealth Edison—and under Illinois's loose disclosure laws, they were not required to>>>>>Read the entire Piece
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The Truth vs. Barack Obama
Found On gossiprocks.com
An unemotional pragmatic compilation of Obama Statements which are blatantly false or misleading with solid evidence presented. Overall the list paints a disturbing picture of the freshman senator from Illinois.
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The "Distractions" Of Obama's Character
By Charles Krauthammer
>>>>>>>Obama understands that the real threat to his candidacy is less Hillary Clinton and John McCain than his own character and cultural attitudes. He came out of nowhere with his autobiography already written, then saw it embellished daily by the hagiographic coverage and kid-gloves questioning of a supine press. (Which is why those "Saturday Night Live" parodies were so devastatingly effective.) >>>>>>
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Great Articles found online by Wolf Howling:

The Race Card, Liberal Guilt and our Next President
>>>>>>>>The allure of Obama is not any of his demonstrated leadership qualities or his economic or foreign policy ideas. As piece after piece in the conservative press and some in the blogosphere have pointed out, Obama has very little experience for the presidency, and his claims to be able to unite the country are particularly disingenuous in light of his voting record as a hard line liberal. Yet none of this is discussed by the main stream media.>>>>>>>

Another Obama Dichotomy

>>>>>>>There are enough dichotomous issues about Obama to fill a laundry list, with the most discordant being Obama’s claim to be a post racial candidate while adopting as a preacher and mentor for twenty years the lunatic racist Rev. Wright. Then there is Obama’s claim to be able to heal the bi-partisan divide of the country while never having once in his career attempted to reach across the aisle on an issue of bi-partisan controversy. And there is Obama’s claim that he will clean Washington of special interests even as he panders shamelessly to Democratic special interests for their support.>>>>>
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Factcheck.org

Obama's Creative Clippings
January 3, 2008
Selective, embellished and out-of-context quotes from newspapers pump up Obama's health plan.

More NAFTA Nonsense
March 3, 2008
An Obama mailer uses dubious, disputed statistics about how much the trade deal hurt Ohio workers.

Substance Abuse
April 1, 2008
A widely forwarded e-mail claims that Obama's bills are more substantive and numerous than Clinton's. Don't believe it.

Senator Obama has one of the worst records for getting bills passed that he has sponsored in the US Senate. That sounds like experience most of us wouldn’t want. The Senator has sponsored and passed 2 Bills in the US Senate - one for the Congo (shock and awe?) and one that makes lobbyists stand when they eat. Impressive work for 4 years on the job.

John McCain has sponsored 537 bills since Jan 21, 1993, of which 340 haven't made it out of committee and 31 were successfully enacted (Exceedingly Good, relative to peers). McCain has co-sponsored 1211 bills during the same time period.
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Obama's List of Demonstrable Lies: 37 and growing
Obama WTF >>> is the most comprehensive and authoritative site about the life, votes, and positions of Senator Obama and his political backers. As his campaign is based on words... not on a proven track-record... if his words are not supported by facts, there’s nothing left but an empty blue suit>>>>>>>

I found this site extremely interesting and devoted to counteract the "messianic" character of the Obama campaign. This website specializes on examining Senator Obama in-debth.
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Obama's Senatorial History: "Starpower - Minor Role"
See clearly evidenced, how this candidate always rather campained than legislate. He loves to campain, but hates to govern. Using the Seanate as a stepping stone in a 5 year plan for the Presidency. Absence on tough decision votes.....it's not me, it is MSNBC, after all a Democratic oriented media which has been very tough on Clinton.
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Obama enjoys unfair advantage in media coverage.
Up to 90% of the coverage positive? 50% with Clinton and McCain? What's wrog with this picture?

MEDIA BOOST OBAMA, BASH “BILLARY”
Once again it is evident that the intelligent voter cannot just believe the media, but must make up his own mind, based upon cold hard facts. Do not make the mistake and easily dismiss people like Bill O'Reilly or Brit Hume of Fox News, as their coverage is fact based and fresh in terms of being inquisitive. Watch the shows and make up your own mind. Objective research shows clear evidence of a way more balanced coverage than CNS, ABC, CNN, NBC.
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NewsWeek ( one of the most liberal Media after all) posted now an article raising serious questions as to the gap between rhetoric and substance.
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Obama supporter can not name one of Obama's accomplishments :
And that's a state government official, for God's sake. A professional politician who terribly failed at naming just one single accomplishment......
I invite all of you Obama supporters to do the very same test and ask your fellow supporters the very same question: Name one major factual accomplishment.......
And then, when the silence becomes really loud, ask yourself what evidence you have to see Obama deliver in the future? Why would anyone in his/her right mind bet the country on these odds?
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Guilt by Association?

First let us define this notion.
Here an analysis based upon the legal interpretation of Guilt By Associacion:
Obama and the Wright-Wing Conspiracy
by Bill Siegel >>>>>>>>>>>
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Obama Pastor: God Damn America
The evidence is appalling, shocking, disgusting and revealing. Sad, tragic evidence for the often mentioned reverse Racism, practised by his church.
(Silently practised by Obama as well?) For 20 years Obama was indoctrinated by this very Reverend.
Why - I ask you - would Obama possibly attend the sermons again and again over two decades, if he did not agree with the position of this church and this specific Preacher? It took me one sermon to leave a congreagtioin for another....
Please watch with awe below video and make up your own mind. if you do not come to the conclusion that it sounds very much like the hate filled yelling by the fanatic fundamentalist Mullah out of Birmingham, preaching hate against Christianity, all infidels and the western world, you are beyond help.
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Shocking Video Evidence:
See Reverend Jeremiah Wright in his own words. Preaching Hate!

Evidence 1 Evidence 2 Evidence 3

Can you really picture even one member of this unbelievable congregation being actually in power or having a position of influence? Can you really? Will you believe that Obama did not know after 20 years of listening to this man? Talking about judgement.... and the cowardice of only responding, after these videos surfaced... How can any decent American patriot listen to these insults, to this hate, to this distortion of historical facts, to this crapping all over the dead souls of soldiers bleeding for the freedom of this country and others since WWII, and not walk out of this church in disgust and outrage? And even after hearing and seeing this shocking evidence not "disowning" this Nazi, but give us a lofty lecture about the racial divide in this country? How can anyone in his right mind even consider voting for this man?
For God's sake - we are talking President Of The United States here!!!
All of a sudden, Michelle Obama's statements about her pride in this country (see video below) appear to be in a logical context
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America created the Aids Virus to eradicate the black man....
Jeremiah Wright
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Classic Example of Bigotry and reverse racism:
Hillary was never called a Nigger!

Reverse Racism at work. I rest my case. So it is okay to use the N word, just as long as of course the person uttering it is black? God help us, if a white, latino or Asian ever dared to use the same language.....

Let us be clear here - I am not talking about a one time statement here. No simple slip of the tongue. This is a continously repeated message of anti-semitism, hate against America, a message Obama has been listening to for over 20 years, which makes this so concerning and as a minimum leaves some serious questions and doubts about Obama's so oftenmentioned and celebrated judgement....
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But - do not just take my word - here a link to an excellent analysis submitted by a friend out of Europe:
Uncle Jeremiah
Barack Obama and his cookie-cutter race huckster.
By Mark Steyn

Did Obama consider God Damn America as a title for his book but it didn’t focus-group so well?>>>God has blessed America, and blessed the Obamas in America, and even blessed the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, whose bashing of his own country would be far less lucrative anywhere else on the planet. The “racist” here is not Geraldine Ferraro but the Reverend Wright, whose appeals to racial bitterness are supposed to be everything President Obama will transcend>>>>
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Pastor Halts Obama's Rise Above Identity Politics
by Ross Kaminsky

>>>>>>it seems an odd coincidence that just over one month after Obama announced his campaign for the presidency, the church altered its “About Us” page on its web site, eliminating the discussion of a “Black Value System,” which included such concepts as “Adherence to the Black Work Ethic,” “Disavowal of the Pursuit of ‘Middleclassness,’” and “Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System.”>>>>>
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More about Obama's Congregation
If that's not scary in terms of (reverse) racism.....
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Obama's Speech

>>>> His decades-long embrace of Wright, seemingly untempered by any serious qualms about what his pastor represents politically, suggests that he isn’t willing to confront the rhetoric of division and polarization within his own community, let alone in the country as whole. Which in turn suggests that that far from being the man who will tell us what we need to hear, rather than what we want to hear, he's a go-along-to-get-along figure, a man who accepts The Way Things Are and doesn't rock the boat. In other words, that he's just another politician>>>>>>

The above was written before the speech was given, and is 100% congruent with my own personal opinion. Today I heard the speech and the writer was confirmed.
While once again the man wiggles out from under any form of accountability or guilt, let alone for once being humble (quality of great leaders)apologizing for the long association with this black Nazi,, he delivers once again proof for being one of the most gifted politicians in recent history and so, once again, nothing sticks to this so immensly polished and smooth surface. I read through many reactions to the speech and it does seem that many of our so gullible populus have bought the coolaid yet again. No matter what happens, Obama will by no means apologize. he will spin, twist and torque any issue to the extent it will fit to this transcendent blurp of hope and change again. And people just keep on sipping the nectar from his lips.

Just for a second - let us turn this around and assume that a White Senator of the US would have only a few times and not 20 years attended the sermons of David Duke of the Ku Klux Clan. I mean, the statements of Wright are about as controversial, divisive and outrageous as the ones of the KuKlux Clan, right?
Do you believe that this Senator would still have a political future? He would have resigned the very same day of breaking the news.

So - why are we applying once again a different set of moral and ethical standards, when a black man is concerned? Aren't the statements of Wright as despicable as the ones voiced by David Duke?
Wouldn't America call immediately for utter condemnation of this hypothetical white Senator? Why is this not happening with a black senator who not only calls this man a spiritual advisor and friend for over 20 years, is married by him, has his kids baptized by him and even after the material is published is not disowning the man? Why is this double standard applied?

Nobody would ever doubt that there is guilt by association, if the above hypothetical example would occur. Any politician associated with such fanatics as the Clan would be crucified. Yet, in the case of Obama, associated with a reverend who's rantings are as terrible as any of Islamic fundamentalists or any White Power Right Wing Nut, kid's gloves are applied and the media is is surprisiingly silent.... it is illogical, it does not make sense, it is not fair - it is against any fundamental priciple of our democracy - it is - once again Reverse Racism, sadly so prevalent in our society.
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Obama's Speech Leaves a Few Question Marks
By Charles Krauthammer
>>>>>>>The question is why didn't he leave that church? Why didn't he leave -- why doesn't he leave even today -- a pastor who thundered not once but three times from the pulpit (on a DVD the church proudly sells) "God damn America"? Obama's 5,000-word speech, fawned over as a great meditation on race, is little more than an elegantly crafted, brilliantly sophistic justification of that scandalous dereliction. >>>>>
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Does Race matter? Is it politically correct to point out the obvious?
Playing by Obama's Rules
by Patrick J. Buchanan
A great analysis about Reverse Racism.
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Some information about Obama's Background In Chicago from an objective, British Perspective, read the article of the reputable LONDON TIMES:

Barack Obama: toxic mentors start to corrode pristine campaign
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Do you know Obama's actual voting record in the senate?
Here the detailed voting record as proof - Make up your own mind:

Please take notice of the amazing amount of NV - Not Voting, Excused, Absent, or Present to some of the most critical issues.........
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Proud of her country?????
Did you see Michelle Obama state that she is now for the first time in her entire adult life proud of our country? A slap in the face of many people living through extremely hard times. Is that the kind of first family we would like to see?

No after the fact press conference will be able to spin this one..... watch for yourself and you be the judge.
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I subscribe to The Economist, a fair and independent British Weekly, respected worldwide.
Can Obama Deliver?
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Obama's Oil Spill
Obama says he doesn't take money from oil companies. Really?
Factcheck.org says that's a little too slick. (Newsweek)
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Anyone not voting for Barack Obama is bitter?

At issue are comments he made privately at a fundraiser in San Francisco last Sunday. He was trying to explain his troubles winning over some working-class voters, saying they have become frustrated with economic conditions:

"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."
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Once again Obama stereotypes and demeans Americans. Anyone who does not vote for him is brushed aside with cliches, as he stereotyped the typical white person.
Does it slowly start to penetrate, that this man is arrogant and elitist? That there is an overall mindset he so far successfully hides?
And once again, there was afterwards no humble apology offered, but just an apology for "a poor choice of words". When will he finally have the backbone and accept responsibility and be truly accountable for his actions and words?
What a pathetic contrast to John McCain who always had the courage to stand before the American People and apologize for a mistake.
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Reverend Wrights full speech to the NAA -
Click here to watch the entire video.
Only upon this speech did Obama finally issue a strong rebuttal.
That is weak and once again the typical response of a politician.
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Obama's Changing Moral Equivalence
By Charles Krauthammer
>>>> Obama's newest attempt to save himself after Wright's latest poisonous performance is now declared the new final word on the subject. Therefore, any future ads linking Obama and Wright are pre-emptively declared out of bounds, illegitimate, indeed "race-baiting"(New York Times editorial, April 30).>>>
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Obama and his IRAQ Promise - How will we look back at his own"Read My Lips"

This thread is based upon an article from the neue Zuercher Zeitung, April 8, 2008>>>>

Senator McCain is clear and speaks clearly about his position on IRAQ. "If we want to succeed, we must strengthen ouor presence there." The poll driven stands by Obama and Clinton present slogans yet no truly clear positions. Both do not dare to fully disclose the realities of this key issue.

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National Security & Foreign Policy

To start this thread, I invite you to click here and watch the controversial dutch documentary about Radical Islam and the Quran "Fitna"

It depicts the shocking reality of the enemy the entire Western World faces.
You will quickly understand, why we need John McCain as Commander-In_Chief.
The threat is too grave to leave it to an amateur or a person who will appease these fanatics as Hitler had been appeased initially. This aspect alone deserves a man with deep experience and realism. No room for error.

Wouldn't you agree that a commander in chief should personally know the horror of war and hence use the defense forces wisely?

A strong defense ensures peace in times of war. And we are in a war, let us not kid ourselves. Eliminating Saddam Hussein was the right thing to do - even if only for humanitary reasons. America has a moral obligation to propagate the pronciples and freedoms of the best constitution in the world.

I think that John here as well has the right position and will be a respected and worldwide appreciated president. After years of POW this man will never use the army lightly, but will at the same time never shy away to use it, if needed. That's the man I would like to see as commander in chief, surrounded by millions of Islamic fanatics who will never shy away to commit atricities against civilians.

Just spotlighting the Islamic threat, go ahead and watch below videos, secretly taped in the Mosque in Birmingham. Not only will you see some distinctive similarities with the hate speeches given by Reverend jeremiah Wright (see facts about Obama), you will on top of that be appalled by the hate the Western World is facing by a growing segement of the Islamic Population. You be the judge:

Report 1
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Report 5

Some disturbing material about the IRAN Threat consolidated by Wolf Howling:

>>>>>>The case for attacking Iran's Qods Force (see here and here) as a means to stop their proxy war and attempts to “Lebanize” Iraq is picking up ever greater evidentiary support as new revelations of Iranian arms shipments and training of militias using Hezbollah surrogates is making the news. This is no longer an “American” issue. It is now recognized by at all levels of Iraqi government and society as a major threat.>>>>>>

The IRAN Threat goes even farther, which is why we must keep a military presence in this region.

Why the Iranian Theocracy's Nuclear Plans must be stopped

>>>>>>There is a radical difference between the Islamic Republic of Iran and other governments with nuclear weapons. This difference is expressed in what can only be described as the apocalyptic worldview of Iran's present rulers. This worldview and expectation, vividly expressed in speeches, articles and even schoolbooks, clearly shape the perception and therefore the policies of Ahmadinejad and his disciples>>>>>>>

Inasmuch as it is hard to conceive for us Western Infidels, how anyone can blow himself and a bunch of innocent people up in a market place, it is even harder to appreciate the fanatism of an entire government, willing to "sacrifice" their own people and country for their skewed mission. As long as this Theocracy is in power, driven by their mission to wipe Israel off the map and destabilize the entire region, a solid military presence by the US is mission-critical. Not only to stabilize IRAQ as a counterbalance to IRAN and Syria, but moreso to be able to mount a fast response and deter IRAN by conventional means. The Cold War presents great historical evidence to support this position.

Solid evidence for IRAN seeking to establish a nuclear Arsenal is presented again on wolf's website.

Now - let us ponder the question of a hasty withdrawal from Irak as proposed by Clinton and Obama once again...... Talk about judgement.
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Great contributions to this topic by Wolf Howling:

Obama and Piece in Our Time
>>>>Obama's foreign policy resembles and portends to be every bit as disastrous as Neville Chamberlain's . Indeed, Neville Chamberlain's choice to talk with Germany and seek peace in the late 30's missed the last real opportunity to stop, at then minimal cost in blood and gold, a war that ultimately claimed near 60 million lives and destroyed Europe's economy for decades. >>>>>>

Obama disparages the military and gets a pass on IRAQ.

>>>>>Whether to withdraw from Iraq has tremendous ramifications for our national security, given the effect such a withdrawal would have on Salafi terrorism and Khomeinist adventurism. Yet not a single Democrat has been seriously questioned on this by the MSM.>>>>
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Obama on Afghanistan's Casualties:
(Washington Post)
Which once again is a bit of evidence to this inexperience and lack of detail knowledge about key defense issues. We can not afford a layman in a time of war to make one single bad decision. The room for error in the meantime has become tiny. I'd sure sleep better, if McCain was our Commander_In_Chief.

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The Advancing Iranian Nuclear Program
By Charles Krauthammer
>>>>>>It is time to admit the truth: The Bush administration's attempt to halt Iran's nuclear program has failed. Utterly. The latest round of U.N. Security Council sanctions, which took a year to achieve, is comically weak. It represents the end of the sanctions road.
The president is going to hand over to his successor an Iran on the verge of going nuclear. This will deeply destabilize the Middle East, threaten the moderate Arabs with Iranian hegemony and leave Israel on hair-trigger alert.>>>>>
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Nonproliferation's Time Has Passed
By Charles Krauthammer
>>>>>WASHINGTON -- The era of nonproliferation is over. During the first half-century of the nuclear age, safety lay in restricting the weaponry to major powers and keeping it out of the hands of rogue states. This strategy was inevitably going to break down. The inevitable has arrived. >>>>>
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In light of above evidence, would you possibly consider giving a Newby the handshake for his foreign policy platform? Obama's lack of experience, his naivety, outright dangerous propositions and plans would in all probability lead to a desaster of global magnitude.

it is our strong opinion that these times require strong, predictable leadership.
We do not like Romney - but for onvce he got it spot on:

"This is not the time for an internship with the Presidency of the USA".

Ethics and Honesty, Moral Leadership

Honesty? Ethics? Moral leadership? Hope?

Aren't people judged by the company they keep? I myself am sick and tired of politicians.
In my book a politician is defined as a person who will say and do anything to get votes.
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Obama, the Platitude Salesman
By Charles Krauthammer
>>>>>>And now, in the most amazing trick of all, a silver-tongued freshman senator has found a way to sell hope. To get it, you need only give him your vote. Barack Obama is getting millions.
This kind of sale is hardly new. Organized religion has been offering a similar commodity -- salvation -- for millennia. Which is why the Obama campaign has the feel of a religious revival with, as writer James Wolcott observed, a "salvational fervor" and "idealistic zeal divorced from any particular policy or cause and chariot-driven by pure euphoria." >>>>>>
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The worst kind are those who continuously claim to transcend trivial issues, be honest, straight shooters, have integrity and judgement and never waiver. Here an example of a classical Politician avoiding to choose a tough stand and do the right thing, as in this case it would mean losing some (black)votes and at the same time admitting of bad judgement. What a sad comparison to McCain in Iowa, losing an entire primary due to sticking to a principle . Continued here>>>>

Economy

When Desktop Publishing was introduced in the 80s, people screamed in fear of millions of jobs disappearing. - - Albeit Millions of Jobs were created and the fear was soon forgotten.

Now we are talking about the very same in terms of the car industry, jobs being outsourced to Asia and so on. Trust me - we will maybe evolve but certainly prevail even stronger.

There is absolutely no alternative to consequent free trade without barriers or subventions or trade protections. John is on the mark here.

Instead of clamoring about China and so many jobs which have wandered towards Asia, John rightfully promotes to accept normal migrations and developments, but lean on the single most important strength of the American People. Our Power of innovation.

We are decades ahead as far as science and technology are concerned. Our state of economics is by far not so grave as many of the leftists want us to believe. Most European countries suffer from way higher debths. The free market has a natural way to balance itself out. Currency fluctuations have occurred in the past as well. It is a normal biorythm.

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Experience vs. Change?

One of the key debate slogans of this election.

Can anyone in his right mind explain to me, how possibly an outsider can come into a very complex environment, without a solid network of influencal contacts and friends and then go ahead and implement change?

What a load of BS, defying any fundamental principle of logic. In order to change something one must profoundly know the animal first. If you do not understand how something works, ow can you be so arrogant to state and promise to come in and immediately change it to the better.

In that regard Obama as well as Romney completely miss the point and only prove mine that they are lightweights, spilling nothing but empty slogans. The system in Washington is complex beyond belief. getting legislature passed is a matter of endless and careful pragmatic balancing, negotiating and compromising.

As a turn around manager for several small to large companies, I can testify to that fact. The first year coming into such a corporation in trouble is spent on nothing but learning and analysing - the so called situations analysis. not before you utterly comprehend, how they work, the procedures and mechanisms, the clients, the product, can you possibly suggest remedies.

Now look at our Government, which is so much more complex and involves so many more people - all with interests and also responsibilities to their own constituencies. Of course it is normal that any Congressmen involved in a legislative subpanel will try to get something for his own people - after all he/she has been elected to do so. Look at the powerful lobbies. Then multiply this by 100 when considering the big picture involving our allies and other countries. Then multiply this again and consider our "enemies" and economic competitors worldwide.

This is the environment any new President has to navigate and C H A N G E for the better. How can he /she possibly do that without years of working within the environment first? If we really want some things changed ( and most of the American People truly wish that), then no one in his right mind can possibly argue for newbies like Obama or Romney. They would be burned to rubble by the political grind work within months. Naivety or Illusions will not help. Charisma will not help - it takes the unattractive day to day detail work and knowledge of the system only a person like John can bring to the table who knows the place, the mechanisms and the players.

Who will get something rather passed, Obama or John McCain? Who can build alliances in the Congress and senate rather, Romney or McCain? Who can possibly bridge the isle on specific issues?

The answer is to my opinion clear as daylight. If we do not only want solutions, but also implementations and execution of such plans and strategies, the answer can only be McCain.

Without deep, deep experience, there can not be any change.

It does not suffice anymore to keep on blabbering about Washington being broken, it is time to actually change it. John has been amazingly successful in working towards it - consider, what this man could do if in the powerful position of President. he is liked and respected across the party lines ( can you say the same for Hillary or Obama or Romney?) Wouldn;t he be the only and logical solution to actually get bipartisan majorities to effectively implement and execute on new legislature?

Just for a second - picture your car. Something is wrong with it. It does not run smoothly anymore. Would you rather have it fixed by an experienced mechanic or a medical doctor?

If you fake it, at least do it right.......

Unifying a polarized country

As a new Citizen I came to objectively see my beloved new country as a highly divided people.

The fact that a true leader should demonstrate a bit of self-depreciation and humility, up to even adapting, learning and admitting a mistake (as we all commit those) is also key to earn true respect. All of the above is manifested in John McCain. I truly believe that he has the ability to transcend party politics and unify this divided populus to a high extent, as opposed to Obama, who hammers his transcending nature home, yet in fact is a left liberal who quite actually polarizes the voter base within the Dems, let alone across party lines.

The fact that he gets up to 90% of the black votes ( evidence, that many blacks vote according to race and not facts) is clear indication for a racist (divisive)dimension which will (has already in PA, KY, WV) result in a nationwide counter effect (e.g latinos, jews, white rural voters) - hence furter divide our people - but this time in addition to political platforms and ideology along racial lines as well.

In that sense, Obama is not only outright dangerous with his foreign policy and economic ideas, he will domestically rip a gorge between ethnic groups. His 20 year association with the black Nazi reverend and other extremists is only aggravating the gap.

It seems to me very ironic, that the factually single most polarizing candidate in recent decades sells himself so successfully as the "Great Unifier".....

I only hope that the American people at some point look at the candidates pragmatically, logically and unemotionally. Look at the facts and the evidence and then derive their decision.
Only , if that happens, will this empty suit be stopped.
How to get them to do a standard due diligence along the lines of a job interview for a top exec instead of the easy jumping on board the emotional bandwagon of America's Rockstar who admittedly has the best marketing machine going in decades, will be the great challenge for John and responsible bloggers and voters such as you and I.

Race no Issue?
Wright Connection Fatally Undermines Obama's Central Theme
by David Limbaugh

Looking at the latest Buzz about Geraldine Ferraro and her remarks to the fact, that Obama would not be in this position, if he wasn't black, then the ensuing harsh reaction of the Obama Campaign, this is a wonderful example once again how reverse racism works.

If a white person dares to point out the obvious (90% of all Blacks in Mississippi voted for Obama after all to name just one fact), and it touches upon race, the Blacks will scream hell.

If a Black congregation (such as Obama's) loudly proclaims to be black and focus on blacks and their issues, it is completely politically correct and of course never racist.

It is my strong opinon that we must do away with racism as well as with reverse racism. This election is in fact very much about race - let us be honest about it. The latino votes as well as the Black votes are irrefutable evidence to that fact. We did have strong women in high positions since 1984(Ferraro), but only very few Blacks. Now thatObama as outspoken Black person enters the arena, he must be equally be prepared to respond to questions regarding race, as any White person must. The extreme reactions of the Obama camp to anything which could remotely hint at bringing the issue up, only proves the widespread reverse racism and discrimination practiced by Black America. Using the race card by the Obama camp comes across as typical, predictable and sadly reflects the been there done that mentality of our black voters, as whenever they run out of factual arguments, they move the discussion to the emotional dimension of Race. I consider it as cheap and dirty campaigning.

It is deplorable how a candidate running on the theme of unifying a country will absolutely not distance himself from a black nazi hate monger. (See Facts about Obama). Obama's speech, defending Pastor Wright leads to division, but certainly not unification. John McCain, staying above the fray of race and gender discussions can for sure.

In this thread Iwould like to discuss, how in fact the wide middleground of "independents and moderates" consisting of dems and reps can come together and be the driving force and not the wings of left and right.

John would to my opinion be the perfect candidate due to this history and track record to truly unify this country. Let us not forget that historically this exact symptom ( a highly divided people) was the downfall of all empires.

A picture speaks 1000 Words....... Polarizing or Unifying? You be the Judge.

I propose that John keeps on working the center of the spectre, maybe even introduce Democratic potential Cabinet members not limited to even the running mate to work towards that goal of reaching across the isle and thus unify a large segment of our society behind an honest leader. Let's discuss.